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Tuesday, March 06, 2012

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Erin

Oh boy. I completely understand why that would drive you utterly bonkers... it makes me a little tense just READING about it. I read blogs like yours so that when I have kids in a couple of years, I will hopefully remember somewhere down in my subconscious mind that other people HAVE gone through this and they HAVE survived without totally losing their minds. (While you probably don't see it in the moment when they're doing this, it's so nice that they're distracted because they're ENTERTAINED by each other, not because they're fighting constantly. They sound very cute together.)

HereWeGoAJen

Well, forget me standing over her, Elizabeth still expects me to put her pajamas on her. I did once babysit for two kids once where I told them to get ready for bed, walked around tiding up a little and discovered that the children had vanished. Because they had gotten ready for bed and THEN GOTTEN INTO THEIR RESPECTIVE BEDS AND TURNED OUT THE LIGHTS. So it can happen. But they were older. Maybe eight and six. (These same children have gone to college now and my lord, I feel ancient.)

natalie

Oh, in our house it is CONSTANT monitoring. Never mind that every day when breakfast is over, we go and wash our hands and then put on socks and shoes... it's a huge (and apparently unwelcome) surprise when I tell them that no! It is not time to play! It is time to put on shoes! And then tantrums, because whyyyy do we need shoes on for school? Holy moly. What I'm saying is... you are not alone.

Erica

Lucy sounds just like my younger daughter Livi. We walk to her sister's preschool since it's only a block away and it takes FOREVER! I feel like the entire time I'm saying "Hurry up. Walk faster. Look, she's beating you. Please come. Yes that's a nice leaf. Yes, there are birds."

Swistle

The twins are 6.75, and they can put their own jammies on, and they can brush their teeth for the MORNING brush but I do the bedtime brush.

Henry is 4.75 and can put on his own jammies, but that's because he wears his daytime shirt to bed and only has to change the pants. And I brush his teeth.

We tuck Edward and Henry in; Elizabeth prefers to put herself to bed.

Carmen

I've said it before I think, but we do live similar lives. Kieran & Lexi are the exact same way, and I have to raise my voice to register with them as well. SO frustrating. I would LOVE to be at the point where I no longer have to helicopter around them, telling them what to do, so if you find out there's a secret method, you let me know, okay?

Catherine

My 2.5 year old has the normal tantrums and needs prodding to do some tasks occassionally, especially since he is in the "I do it!" phase, but I think the "natural consequences" approach of Love and Logic (book) has really helped establish good habits for him and has eased frustration for me. It is not a "quick fix" but maybe it would give you some ideas to curb the frustration found in nagging.

Emily also

I don't have kids of my own, so this is half ass-vice. The other half is that I work in a grade one class (ALL BOYS) with a boy who has autism. Routines are King in his life and he can't follow instructions with even two steps. He is also terrible at transitions, even ones he does like five times a day every day.

If you want him getting things done before 9:11, try to build a new routine. Teach him that it's his job to put on his shoes and coat at 9:08. He'll have two routines built in that three minute span and it will be something he's in charge of (or so he thinks!).

For transitions where he needs to follow two directions, I beat those two steps like dead horses. If my little guy has to hand in a book and then get a piece of paper from the pile, I say "Hand in your book. Yellow bucket, hand it in there." And make him confirm he's heard it, "You're handing this in, where are you handing it in?" "yellow bucket." "YES! Handing it in to the yellow bucket! ... THEN you pick up a piece of paper! ... what do you do after you hand it in? You get a piece of paper! What do you do next?" "I don't know." "What do you do after you hand it in? You get a piece of paper! What do you do next?" "paper" "YES!" and then I say it all over again. Yes, I feel like punching myself in the face, but it works. I went to a workshop where I was told to ask the question, give the answer, and then ask the question again. That way you have modeled the appropriate answer and (hopefully) the student can repeat it back.

I'm sure I drive everyone within earshot crazy, but since the kid I work with can't self monitor ("I handed in my book. Now what do I do? Hmm... I probably get the worksheet so I know what to do next" in his head) I do it out loud for him so he learns how to do it himself.

Diane

THIS SO HAS TO BE THE NORM. Emily. Seriously. Being perfectly honest here. I have to remind my children, both of the girl ones, one of whom is 5-AND-A-HALF years old, that we need to pull up our pants before exiting the bathroom. They will wash their hands! Flush the toilet! EVEN TURN OFF THE LIGHT. But they will do it all with their pants around their ankles. I just ... really, guys? That's the thing I have to remind you of?

And every morning before school? I have to stand there and remind Violet to TAKE BITES OF HER BREAKFAST. She forgets she is eating! Because she and Isla are so involved in whatever game/argument it is they're WRAPPED UP IN. She will then take a bite and go back to the playing and I have to remind her AGAIN.

It's exhausting is what it is, and I really hope it ends some time this decade.

PANTS AROUND THEIR ANKLES. Have I mentioned they stand on a stool to reach the sink? HOW DOES THAT EVEN WORK?

Bren

My 4 year old still insists I help her get dressed, undressed, wiped (bathroom), teeth brushed blah blah blah. She was good until she saw me "doing" so many things for her baby sister. And yes, I love how it is such a big surprise that when the morning cartoon ends, it is TIME FOR SCHOOL! Ugh!

Kristin

My daughter is 6 and a half, and is an only child, and she's just like your kids. I have to tell her to do every single thing, usually multiple times. And our morning routine is always a mad dash with me pissed off. So no, you are not alone.

Megan

Oh, God, this is my house! I feel like all I do is yell sometimes. "Do this, do that," etc., etc. SO FRUSTRATING.

Can you let them do little tasks by themselves, bit by bit? I got my daughter to put her shoes on by telling her "OK, I'm leaving now" and making a big show of leaving. That usually gets her to move her buttski.

Dr. Maureen

Here's what mornings sound like around here:

Jack, it's time to go through your list. [The "list" is what he has to do to get ready: Eat, pee, wash hands, wash face, brush teeth, get dressed, put on socks.] Jack, it's time to go through your list. Jack it's time to go through your list. Go pee. Go pee. GO PEE. PEE. PEE. PEE. PEE. PEE. Wash your hand. Wash your hands. Jack, wash your hands. Wash your hands. Wash your hands. OK, face and teeth. Face and teeth. Face and teeth. Face and teeth. FACE AND TEETH. Jack, I'm getting angry. If you are late for school, you have to explain it to your teacher. Face and teeth. Face and teeth. FACE AND TEETH. OK, Get dressed. Get dressed. You can get dressed while you're talking to me. Get dressed. GET DRESSED. Socks. Socks. Socks. Socks. SocksSocksSocksSocksSocks...."

Reading this over, I think I need to read that parenting book, though. I am perhaps not handling this well.

But man, I hear you.

Ms. Amy

Mine are 8 and (almost) 4, and I still have to remind the 8 year old of the morning routine. Despite having been in school for 3 years now. THREE! Harassing is the norm. When does it end? 26? 27?

Jessica

I'd like to second the vote for Parenting with Love & Logic. It made me feel less crazy to have a "plan", even a loose one, both as a teacher and as a parent.

Christy

Oh, I think this is totally normal. Some mornings/bedtimes are better than others but if I had a nickel for every time I say to my 6-year old, "Stay focused," well... you know. And my friends with similarly aged children give the same reports.

I've also heard great things about Parenting with Love & Logic. My son's elementary recommends it to parents. It's on my nightstand, but I haven't opened it yet and it's due back to the library tomorrow... But I think it'll be really good when I read it, eventually.

Jennifer

We also got tired of having to coach our oldest (he was 4 at the time) through his evening routine day after day, so eventually we hung up a picture chart. That way we could send him off to get started on his own. It worked great for him. My middle son (now 4) has one too, but he still needs to be coached through. When they dawdle too much, we usually end up telling them NO MORE TALKING UNTIL YOU ARE ALL DONE! Good luck!

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Maggie

I am SO FREAKING SICK of micromanaging preschoolers. So yeah, today was a bad one, maybe I am not always so ANNNNGRY about it, but MAN AM I SICK OF IT TODAY.

Jen

I don't think it's necessarily 'normal', but not 'unnormal' either. My daughter is just 3 and thrives off of knowing exactly what is expected of her and she wants to know the plan each day. She's fiercely independant and dresses herself, brushes her teeth and assists around the house with chores. I don't think I'm doing anything special - I think that they are all just so individual. My daughter happens to be really good about following rules and likes to know 'what's the plan today mommy?'

Don't beat yourself up, it will improve.

Carrie

Oh I am SOOOO glad to know that my son is not the only one like this. He is 4 1/2 and completely incapable of doing something as simple as putting his shoes on without me following him to his room, instructing him to open the drawer, remove the shoes, put on the shoes - nope, wrong foot - etc. He requires an insane amount of micromanagement. I am dreading the homework years. Oh, and he is a parking lot wanderer too. He's usually in the process of asking me one thousand questions about Octonauts or something else, and always ends up following me to the other side of the car (where I am putting his baby brother in) instead of his side and climbing into his seat. Lately we have been having seat belt "races" and that has helped a bit. But, I feel your pain - and again, am so glad to know that we are not alone!

Elsha

Kalena is pretty hit and miss. If we're getting ready to go somewhere she is WAY more interested in doing what I ask. She'll get clean clothes, get shoes, go to the bathroom, get shoes for her brother, etc. But only with a specific instruction for each of those things. And if I ask her to do those same things but we're not actually getting ready to leave the house? Much micromanaging involved.

Will is really too young to follow instruction. Sometimes he'll get his shoes, but that's about it.

Kara

This post could be in a parenting book as an example of helicopter parenting. I know it comes from the best of intentions--certainly no one could ever accuse you of neglect! You're there for your kids, you've always been there, you're a stay-home-mom, that's your job, where else would you be? Right? I totally understand that. But this post is why type-A parents need to make a conscious effort to NOT be the helicopter. Yes it's a pain to clean up a makeup party when a three year old girl has been left to find her own entertainment for 20 minutes. But it also helps them to learn how to choose what to do with their time and, more importantly, what the consequences are for those choices. I think (yes this is my opinion, but it's backed up by some respected parenting experts) that your children will only get to the point of not needing you to direct their every move if you start making a real effort to NOT give them constant direction. They need it because you've never NOT given it, you know? If you're not sure how to start on backing off with that stuff, I'd suggest reading Love and Logic. Excellent parenting resource, and huge on teaching kids to be rational, self-sufficient problem solvers through non-helicopter parenting. Oh, and for reference, my girls are just-turned-6 and 3, and my 6-year-old absolutely goes and gets herself into her pj's, uses the bathroom, and brushes her teeth. I still have to remind her to put her clothes in the hamper and put her shoes away almost all of the time, but that's where we are.

Amanda

It drives me nuts too but i just try to console myself with the fact that it wont be like this forever. They wont be in their 20's and still only putting on one sock before they have to empty out their toy box....i hope

Moira

I think this must be a personality thing. My 2.5 LOVES knowing the routine and what comes next. He gets such satisfaction out of it. "I need my shoes, then my coat, then my water bottle, and my lunch bag." Half the time he is reminding me of something, "Mommy you forgot my hat." He has our home and preschool routines down cold - to the point where he notices if we take a different route.

I think it is completely his personality - we did absolutely nothing to encourage this, it's just the way his brain works.

His distraction/dawdling time comes at meals. My goodness child, just eat the food!

ememby

I have to remind Liam (5.5 - don't forget the half) what he is doing when he is standing naked in his room, holding his underwear. What are you supposed to be doing? Do you think it would be coloring a picture or PERHAPS getting dressed? Ugh. The self-directed children are the exception AND probably have older siblings. :)

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